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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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Ravioli_DND
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Did we really want the tactic of putting pets in front of terminals to make it more difficult for people trying to stop the takedown timer?

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06-09-2004 02:41 AM  

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lillis
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KDS must have had 50 people there that night. All were not overt, but no matter. At least ONE of those guys should have checked inside the bases. While I totally see your point, I also must say that this is not a tactic/whatever that is hard to stop, if people wouldnt be caught so up in the fighting that they didnt notice they were led away from the bases etc.

We probably wont see this tactic anymore, atleast not successfully applied to anyones base.



And btw, I'm Vhycers brother, and let's just say that he's the nice one of us two

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06-09-2004 02:43 AM  

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Wins a Win, regardless off how they did it, hats off to them.

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06-09-2004 02:43 AM  

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Hm. just say bla bla bla whine here and there no solution. GG buys and girls.
 
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06-09-2004 02:44 AM  

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satanis
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Since its been in short supply: Congratulations. Excellent move, from both co-ordination, dedication teamwork and planning.

I can fully appreciate what went into making this happen. You have my respect for the accomplishment.




Tjautjas wrote:
I have to also say... good work from all rebels that knew of this plan, and didnt tell anyone... shows me who to trust in the future 
 
Now as we have defeted KDS, we will look for a new target, to bad there is no other good IMP PvP guilds exept KDS....
We call it a defeat.. u can call it what u want
 
/salute
 





Actually, I think you'll come back to KDS. Time after time, and not just because we fight back.
Next time I hope you'll have to use the front door.

Do that again once more and I'll nod and say "huh, we didn't learn the lesson - or maybe we didnt train our troops how to apply it".

I think by doing this once you've made it very hard to do a second time, almost impossible to do a third. At least to KDS.

Also - are you sure you wanted to take a base in this fashion ? It's an interesting precedent isn't it

Was the satisfaction of having the plan work better than actually destroying the base ?
Would you have had the same satisfaction using these tactics against, say Sardukar? ( Btw, that's part of the precedent I'm talking about )

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06-09-2004 02:50 AM  

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Tjautjas
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OMG, Nataz is whining about Exploits???
 
For a while ago i remember i broke your bike and killed u in AH...
 
We meet at bestine 10mins later, and i said.. we are now even (cause u had taken a bike from me)
 
Nataz said: No, i used the exploit, its not broken anyway, look... and he bring it out again.. and run away screaming. "YEAH, Im a exploiter... A proude ONE"
 
And Everytime u get a change to nail or report us...you try your best all the time... like in luxor, when i was in the water to...
U coulnt kill me, and i was joking with u after like 6min swimming around, i logged in and out... when i logged in.. the first thing i saw was nataz " REPORT HIM" After that i swimmed for 40more minuts.. the thing i showed u when i logged in and out, was that u cant kill me if i wanted to, i could have logged out, even if i was still there in the game for 3-5min u would never killed me anyway.
 
And btw, u should join some Marathon as mutch as u run everytime u see me or raimaile comming...
 
Silly stupid little your guy, go **edit** yourself!

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06-09-2004 02:58 AM  

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Kaizer88
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I feel the need to chime in, even if I wasn't there during the attack (slaps self silly).

All this talk about fair play, and not using exploits is a very loaded term. For instance, we all felt CMs were incredibly overpowered in the game mechanics and none of us had it in our template. We only had doc skills so we could counter it. Now, doing something like this severely handicaps you, because you can never rely on that everyone else will follow your "Code of Conduct". As long as it's "In the game", people WILL use it.

So, after a while, we adopt the "Win by any means" way. This isn't as negative as it sounds. It may involve stuff like using a squad leader on a second account spamming commands. It may involve logging out a base demo team inside a base. It may involve having everyone use the "best templates" (fencers, riflemen, CMs etc....). The fact of the matter is, this becomes a rather fun and healthy competition. So long as both sides can deal with it.

As Molan is the leader of KDS, and has through his posts stated that he approves of actions like this, we should all continue with this "one-upmanship". Honestly, its incredible fun to try out ingenious and unorthodox ideas to try and break the stale-mate. Ofcourse, we could all whine and complain that the GCW system ins SWG is broken and refuse to participate.... OR we could do like Raphael and Molan are doing in ADAPTING and fighting on. In the meantime, the devs will change combat system, the flaws and the exploits, but it is unrealistic to imagine that if an exploit exists, people will be too honourable to not use it.

Taking on KDS has been the greatest challenge in the GCW for the ReDevils. All sorts of tricks have been used, and we have had to deal with them countering and adopting some our methods (Note to self, KDS 20 man squads with squad leaders are well tough. Don't give them any ideas like that ). We used squadleader, KDS countered with using squadleaders with Jedi. We needed a new trick, and we sought out Zi'chi the Jedi guardian to help us out. (All it took was signing over my soul, and him taunting me on TS about how I sound like a South African )

Good show ReDevils for pulling this off. It has been said that taking down a base (in prime time) in Luxor was impossible, well, some of you Redevils (You know who you are...) are too stupid to know what impossible means . Molan, repsect to you for having your attitude and competitive spirit. Fighting people like you is an honour.

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06-09-2004 03:00 AM  

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You dont usually see me post much on these battlereports, and you dont usually see me spam much in spatial. And yesterday is another day im happy I didnt start spamming in spatial, because I just arrived in nyms, when I got word our base was down, and due to a "bug". I was thinking like probably all KDS and other Imperial presence that were present in Lux at the time - "OMG THE REBELS EXPLOITED OUR BASE".

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but I think I'll just appologize on behalf of some of our members that started spamming not-so-nice-words in spatial, and the other imps that were there that did the same. You (rebels) know sometimes it isn't easy to control your motions for a split-second, and thats all it takes. With you guys standing around Lux trolling, it is easy to let the flames flow.

Anyways, VERY good tactics! Just a shame I didnt arrive with my evil poison earlier and you might have fallen earlier, and we might have gone inside the base..

/salute KDS, Imperials & Rebels - very good fight, even tho I just fought it like 5 minutes, Luxor is the place I like to fight best


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06-09-2004 03:05 AM  

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OMG, Nataz is whining about Exploits???
 
- I just state my oppinion on the mather as the thread envolved to discuss that mather, and my oppinion is still that its exploit and not beneficial to the game. It also depends on what You define as an exploit, fyi exploits is not only things that have been stated by the CSR/DEVs.
 
For a while ago i remember i broke your bike and killed u in AH...
We meet at bestine 10mins later, and i said.. we are now even (cause u had taken a bike from me)
Nataz said: No, i used the exploit, its not broken anyway, look... and he bring it out again.. and run away screaming. "YEAH, Im a exploiter... A proude ONE"
 
- Im impressed over Your memory, as You seems to have it correctly quoted. However I tried to trick You to believe it was an exploit, its not. It happends when You store Your bike and a ghost bike remains in the world or when its severe lagg and the bike autostores at cloning in another zone (the last one happend and I was lucky).
 
And Everytime u get a change to nail or report us...you try your best all the time
 
- This is not correct as I have never in my 1 year++ career in SWG reported anyone
 
like in luxor, when i was in the water to...
U coulnt kill me, and i was joking with u after like 6min swimming around, the thing i showed u when i logged in and out, was that u cant kill me if i wanted to, i could have logged out, even if i was still there in the game for 3-5min u would never killed me anyway.
 
- I couldnt kill You cause I was covert and You know I was just watching, even told You so, and I dont believe in GTEF
 
i logged in and out... when i logged in.. the first thing i saw was nataz " REPORT HIM" After that i swimmed for 40more minuts..
 
- "report him" was followed by a smily , and yes disconnecting and log back on to avoid overt status in battle is an exploit
 
the thing i showed u when i logged in and out, was that u cant kill me if i wanted to, i could have logged out, even if i was still there in the game for 3-5min u would never killed me anyway
 
- lol You cant call a speeder even when disconnecting and logging back on as that dont free You from fighting mode and as You aint any faster than us (alot of us had mounts or speeders) You only had Your lizard toes to use, so I guess You had died anyway when Your 60sec covert timer ran out.
 
And btw, u should join some Marathon as mutch as u run everytime u see me or raimaile comming...
 
- Lmao, You try to make me look like a coward, come back and try again when You can PvP without all bars buffed and not accompanied by others. Fyi I PvP most of the time solo and unbuffed (I enjoy it), I have had mind buff like 10 times in 1 year of playing. I run sometimes if I can see its not possible to win and/or if I have something I need to insure.
 
Btw Raphael' Good trip to Brazil I envy You that trip, have a good time
 
Molan and Kaizer good posts

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06-09-2004 03:51 AM  

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raimale
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NOW i wanna se those screenis from u grinding inside the base=) liers liers liers liers lieing KDS LIERS!!!!!!!!!!! tell your kinderguarden teacher molan to tech u some more=) its fun=)

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06-09-2004 05:06 AM  

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Haha, i love u guys <3

06-09-2004 05:09 AM  

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I do not expect all rebels to understand this, but I will try.

KDS is a RP guild. We have a command structure, that gives a certain room for everyone there. People who join are asked to follow the chain of command and act according to our CoC (Code of Conduct).

But with this said, we have to remember that people who joins are of various age, opinion and feelings. With a memberslist at 100+, it becomes hard, even impossible to keep people from sharing there emotions when the GCW has been set at a level like this.

When you see Colonel Molan, or another HC (High Council) member appoligize on behalf of the members, you must understand that its something thats almost impossible to stop.

To Raphael and all other who keeps getting so offended and thereafter using them as official statements from KDS and our answer to your achievement, then you are wrong.

Unless you see a HC member post our official statements, its just people expressing their feelings. We do promise that we will continue to ask our members not to go into flames or any controvercial threads.

With respect,

Major Medizor

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06-09-2004 05:20 AM  

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Show me ScreenShots that is all i say and i trust you.

 

We have ScreenShots, a rebel that has told us etc

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06-09-2004 05:29 AM  

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(Sidenote: Kensai2k, your evil poison would have done as much good as every other CM's evil poison in KDS: cipher, nada, zero, nothing, nil.)

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06-09-2004 05:32 AM  

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I have to say this thread (and the comments by Bubble after the event) leaves a bitter taste after a GREAT bit of PvP. I really enjoy that battle and then to come hear and insult each other like this really devalues it. I thought both sides fought really well and the CM's didn't seem to ruin it too badly as there is now SOOOO many docs

Gratz to the Jedi who turned up too... was fun to see them in battle.

gg all.

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06-09-2004 05:34 AM  

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