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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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Darec
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yo all. First i just have to say that the raid yesterday evening was the most interesting raid ever for me. And might be the most well planed and accomplish (grammar?) raid ever in the Chimaera server history. And this is not just about us ReDevils and TSA. Thanks to KDS who has given us headache after every raid the last weeks we have changed our way of PvP. Today its not just about defensestacked templates, uberweps or FoTM-templates, to survive you need Teamwork, Tactics and a litle bit of controversial methods Thanks! Ill put up a link to the videos if someone wants to see.
 
Userid: nisse
Pass: pisse
 
You can click on the link for webbrowser but you can use an FTP-client aswell.
 
The videos are named like GG-RTS-date-name.wmv (Grabbarna Grus-ReDevils)
 
 

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06-08-2004 10:12 PM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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06-08-2004 11:03 PM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)   [ Edited ]
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If a demoteam logged out inside a base and logged back on later to slice and start countdown and then log out again I would say its a HUGE exploit. Its taking advantage of poor/broken game mechanics and Im 100% sure its not intended to be like this. If SOE had an easy code to put into the game to prevent this it had been in there. Fyi there is alot of "legal" exploits that aint bannable, but its still exploit and add nothing but frustration at the game.
 
This is nothing to be proud of, its only take the game down to a new low.
 

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06-08-2004 11:54 PM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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Darec
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But they have already made an easy code to prevent this. Turrets.

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06-09-2004 01:28 AM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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It might be declared an exploit as a result of this thread (though I doubt it), but it won't be retrospectivly punished.

Personally, I'm just upset that it seems there were no nuna's involved really

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06-09-2004 01:31 AM  

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Well played guys u did well with your tactics,and have proved to be strong opponents,i realy hope we have learnt a big lesson here:             Brev /shouts at top of voice: dont chase raim out of bases he uses that as tactics,hold the bases.

 /salute cya tonight ?

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06-09-2004 01:37 AM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)   [ Edited ]
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Platon2x
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Darec wrote:
But they have already made an easy code to prevent this. Turrets.
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Thats not the case my friend. If You enter a base without turrets and log out, and log back in and the enemy have added turrets You aint booted from the base (I have tried that a few weeks ago at Liberty). You might say "oh You did that, then Your exploiting to", no I was testing the system and DIDNT take advantage of it. Your team did take advantage of it and the worst exploits is they who cost others alot of time/money/FP etc... and thats the case here.
 
If You guys cant see this shady tactics is completely wrong You have some serious issues.

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06-09-2004 01:40 AM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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Good work rebel scums! hooray!

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06-09-2004 01:54 AM  

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Re: ReDevil + Friends Battle Report (Today/Now/04)
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"Today its not just about defensestacked templates, uberweps or FoTM-templates, to survive you need Teamwork, Tactics and a litle bit of controversial methods"

I watched the fight on my brothers pc as he was hanging around Luxor at the time. I admit you guys did have some better tactics than KDS, but do you really think you would have done so well if you weren't all cm/riflemen/fencer/doctors? I might not have seen everyone in your team but of the ones I did see, not one of them was without a stun baton, a poison lobbing arm or a rifle. And looking at the damage some of you were doing most had uberweps to boot. I know there isn't much you can do it about it as thats the way the game is at the minute, but in my opinion its the fotm/weps that win battles, tactics play a smaller part *shrugs*

06-09-2004 01:59 AM  

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GG, but i personally will say this. You had a victory in your terms but are you now taking bases for the sake of bases?. you chose to try and take a base a sneaky way, instead of fighting the enemy of it and keeping them off it. you can choose your methods, but its not as if you really fought over the base, merely tricked us with a clever tactic (cant be denied).

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06-09-2004 02:06 AM  

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Darec
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pearlshaunswg wrote:

"Today its not just about defensestacked templates, uberweps or FoTM-templates, to survive you need Teamwork, Tactics and a litle bit of controversial methods"

I watched the fight on my brothers pc as he was hanging around Luxor at the time. I admit you guys did have some better tactics than KDS, but do you really think you would have done so well if you weren't all cm/riflemen/fencer/doctors? I might not have seen everyone in your team but of the ones I did see, not one of them was without a stun baton, a poison lobbing arm or a rifle. And looking at the damage some of you were doing most had uberweps to boot. I know there isn't much you can do it about it as thats the way the game is at the minute, but in my opinion its the fotm/weps that win battles, tactics play a smaller part *shrugs*




What i ment was that its not enought (just about) with defensestacked temps, uberweps or FoTM-temps... so to survive you need more then that (teamwork and tactics).
my fault sorry.
Ofcourse you need to mix a combo of templates that work in pvp and use the weps/armor and other stuff that is needed. But against a enemy like KDS you need more then that.
Nataz: i didnt know about the HQ thing. Only comment i can give on your last post is, try to have turrets 24/7...? i know sounds too optimistic...

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Darec wrote:

Only comment i can give on your last post is, try to have turrets 24/7...? i know sounds too optimistic...

Message Edited by Darec on 06-09-2004 11:13 AM


Meh... both factions have their share of people who will take out any turrets placed at 3.30 in the morning.

Not your fault, not KDS's fault, just one of those sucky things. Surely a simpler solution would be jsut to lock the base to the other faction when it isn't vuln.

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06-09-2004 02:21 AM  

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Darec wrote:
Nataz: i didnt know about the HQ thing. Only comment i can give on your last post is, try to have turrets 24/7...? i know sounds too optimistic...
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You know aswell as me that Turrets is kinda easy to take down at odd hours, though turrets have become alot stronger, but are still 1000% to expensive. I think cheaper turrets would solve alot of problems with base raids/takedowns etc...
 
However Im sorry to say that CSR-LeeT seems to agree with You, it aint stated as an exploit (yet) if there were no turrets when You logged back on, if it were turrets then its exploit. They clearly stated though that this is not how the base takedowns is supposed to be. This means You now have to be physically inside the base atleast every 15min during Vul, cause You cant fight off an enemy that aint online.

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Oune: I don't quite see your point here. The KDS have more pvp-ready imps in their town than the rebs can assemble in a week (no, of course it's not true, but I think you are getting my point here).
The thing with sneaky tactics is this: they are sneaky. It's the whole point. You don't need to be 50 ppl to take on 50 other people with sneaky tactics, you need to be 15.
Plus, if KDS had lost by the numbers (zerg rush kekkeke ^__^), they wouldn't have looked as stupid as they do now, which is a great plus if you ask me.

Sure, KDS is a force to be reckoned with in an open pvp battle, but might it be that we have found a **edit** in their armor? No brains, all brawls?
Yes, you know this tactic now, and I'm sure that you won't fail for it again, but our bag of tricks is not depleted.

(This might also open up for something new... intelligence. People selling info to the highest bidder. What if someone would have gone to KDS and said "Your base will go down at 7pm tonight, I know why and how it will be done. Give me 1,000,000 and I will tell you how to prevent it."? Of course, everybody who knews this by then wouldn't have said it to anyone, but what if somebody did anyway? What if KDS had knew? Sure, a base isn't worth 1,000,000 credits, but I am pretty sure any of the KDS officials gladly would have payed this sum to go back in time and be able to stop the base from poofing up.

I love sneaky backstabs )

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06-09-2004 02:23 AM  

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Oune
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I do see your point mate, but should we really have to put turrets and watch them 24/7 so a small demo force cant log in the base and then anytime within the 2 hours vuln take the base?
Its not really in the spirit of the fight imo, yes it was a clever tactic. but do we really want this tactic created?

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06-09-2004 02:29 AM  

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